Do people from Meta participate in these discussions about the direction of ActivityPub and the Fediverse? Do people whose orgs are funded by Meta participate in these discussions? Do we approach these discussions with a goal of accommodating Meta, or do we reject Meta?

Does the former CTO of Truth Social (who's an ActivityPUb developer) participate in these discussions?

Is it important to make the environment inclusive and equitable enough that Black and Indigenous people participate in these discussions and their views are listened to? What about disabled people? Trans, queer, and non-binary people? If it is important, how to start moving in that direction?

Do ActivityPub developers adopt fascists' talking points?

And so on and so on and so on ...

These discussions are all inherently political.

@julian @jdp23@socialhub.activitypub.rocks

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@jdp23@neuromatch.social @julian @jdp23@socialhub.activitypub.rocks Just a regular Joe here, not a computer guy. Maybe I can bring some clarity from a user’s perspective. Meta is run by a Fascist sympathizer (to put it charitably) - they need to GTFO including all the satellites. Truth Social is Nazi, Goebbels, GTFO. If a dev is spouting Nazi shit, GTFO. Others who are not Fascists all should be included in because it’s the right thing and benefits all. None of this is political. The political stage is over

Totally agree about Meta and Truth Social. The challenge is that not everybody sees it that way.

• Some very influential people in the fediverse advocate working with Meta

• somebody from Meta is on the SWICG standards group that's responsible for ActivityPub, and I saw a discussion of "embrace, extend, and extinguish" get shut down as off-topic

• On SocialHub, several people suggested closer ties to an organization that's reportedly funded by Meta and to SWICG (which has Meta participation)

• a guy from that organization reportedly funded by Meta speaks at and helps organize fediverse events

• when the former Truth Social CTO got kicked out of the fedidevs chat room last year, there was a lot of pushback. It's good that he's gone, but it's not good that there was so much pushback!

And so on and so on.

None of this is political.

That all seems political to me! Not in the sense of supporting a particular party or particular candidate, but still ... the "apolitical" view is that people like Meta employees and the former Truth Social CTO should be allowed to participate as long as they don't spout Nazi shit in the discussions here.

Obviously I don't see it in that "apolitical" way, and I'm far from the only one ... but many others do.

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