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What is particularly troubling about #Bluesky is their aggressive policy of obeying in advance all laws from any jurisdiction. They banned Turkish dissidents under this rationale, and are now preemptively doing UK ID verification. It makes one think these reasons are pretextual, or at the very least cowardly.
Blue Sky is a corporation trying to please its shareholders.
I also don’t know where Blue Sky’s offices are. If they’re registered in a particular country, then they’re subject to that country’s jurisdiction.
But if you're running a forum or a Fediverse site, and neither you nor your server is located there, you can tell them to go to hell — because it’s not your problem.
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Blue Sky is a corporation trying to please its shareholders.
I also don’t know where Blue Sky’s offices are. If they’re registered in a particular country, then they’re subject to that country’s jurisdiction.
But if you're running a forum or a Fediverse site, and neither you nor your server is located there, you can tell them to go to hell — because it’s not your problem.
@Linux @mastodonmigration The act applies extras territorially. So please be careful if you run a Mastodon server with UK users and have anyone involved in your team that is personally subject to UK jurisdiction.
Edit: Removed "not true" after re-reading your post.
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@Linux @mastodonmigration The act applies extras territorially. So please be careful if you run a Mastodon server with UK users and have anyone involved in your team that is personally subject to UK jurisdiction.
Edit: Removed "not true" after re-reading your post.
@trashpanda @mastodonmigration
They can word it anyway they want, but they cannot enforce their laws on every nation on the planet and every citizen everywhere.
That is not how the world works.
If it did, we'd all be in deep trouble with Russia, China, and the United States dictating terms to everyone on earth.
Thankfully, it does not work that way.
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@trashpanda @mastodonmigration
They can word it anyway they want, but they cannot enforce their laws on every nation on the planet and every citizen everywhere.
That is not how the world works.
If it did, we'd all be in deep trouble with Russia, China, and the United States dictating terms to everyone on earth.
Thankfully, it does not work that way.
@Linux @trashpanda @mastodonmigration
Australian hacker was charged with crimes in USA.
Was arrested in Australia and extradited to the USA.Some countries will arrest and extradite their citizens under international agreements.
USA will seek to extradite (remember Julian Assange?) foreign citizens while not extraditing (except accidentally as ICE is doing) it's own citizens.
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@Linux @trashpanda @mastodonmigration
Australian hacker was charged with crimes in USA.
Was arrested in Australia and extradited to the USA.Some countries will arrest and extradite their citizens under international agreements.
USA will seek to extradite (remember Julian Assange?) foreign citizens while not extraditing (except accidentally as ICE is doing) it's own citizens.
@skua @trashpanda @mastodonmigration
I feel like you're reaching.
Wiki Leaks, was leaking state secrets. They became an international skeptical and yes, America made a deal with Australia.
That does not mean you need to comply with the laws of every foreign country, and that every foreign country can make laws that apply to everyone on earth.
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@skua @trashpanda @mastodonmigration
I feel like you're reaching.
Wiki Leaks, was leaking state secrets. They became an international skeptical and yes, America made a deal with Australia.
That does not mean you need to comply with the laws of every foreign country, and that every foreign country can make laws that apply to everyone on earth.
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@Linux @trashpanda @mastodonmigration
Feel you've been over generalising.@skua @Linux @mastodonmigration Thank you. I feel like I have been blocked now for the reasonable position of pointing out that there are real legal risks to operating a global platform with a global team in violation of any country's laws.
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@skua @Linux @mastodonmigration Thank you. I feel like I have been blocked now for the reasonable position of pointing out that there are real legal risks to operating a global platform with a global team in violation of any country's laws.
@trashpanda
Aren't we living in ridiculous times?
(rhetorical question)It's a quirky space that Johanna Mastodon made for us. I get that blocky feeling occasionally too. People sure got their triggers.
As far as risks go, IMO operators need to quantify the risk of being A. charged under their own local laws, & B. being extradited to face foreign charges.
B. seems very difficult to judge unless your country always refuses to extradite.I think the risk is low if local laws are followed.
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@trashpanda
Aren't we living in ridiculous times?
(rhetorical question)It's a quirky space that Johanna Mastodon made for us. I get that blocky feeling occasionally too. People sure got their triggers.
As far as risks go, IMO operators need to quantify the risk of being A. charged under their own local laws, & B. being extradited to face foreign charges.
B. seems very difficult to judge unless your country always refuses to extradite.I think the risk is low if local laws are followed.
@skua @thenexusofprivacy @mastodonmigration Looks like it's starting. LGBTQIA.space just blocked UK users from their CDN because of the act.
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@skua @thenexusofprivacy @mastodonmigration Looks like it's starting. LGBTQIA.space just blocked UK users from their CDN because of the act.
Thanks for the update!
